Western Steam Loggers DVD Train Video
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Some of the most interesting railroad was the back-woods logging operations, and related short-lines that fed off wood products. This mostly 8mm and super 8mm footage is from mainly two different sources. There are several different operations shown as follows:
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Rail Buff (Southern California) on 2016-02-26 21:44:31.
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A bit disappointing. The previews on this web site looked better than the actual DVD, IMO. All photos were taken with 8mm or Super 8mm films, hence no original sound. OK. But, as explained in the show, rather than dub in fake sound, music was played instead. It became very annoying. No sound at all, other than the narration, would have been better, again, IMO. Narration was good and the music did stop for it.. Lots of Shays, some Heislers and a little bit of Climax, tank and articulated locos. One thing I liked, if a loco hadn't been scrapped they told you it were now. Some shots of the locos in actual lumber operations but mostly rail fan events.
Added 2016-02-27 21:10:24 by Steamboy
Listen to me. There Is nothing wrong with this program. You've been watching other railfan videos that have dubbed sounds on silent films. This is the way Greg Does those stuff! For Example: Southern Pacific's Overland route & Southern Pacific Classic Collector's series. Same footages, play both at the same time and you'll see what I mean.
Added 2016-02-27 21:46:25 by RailBuff
I've got nothing against dubbed sound, per se, and Greg Scholl Productions is, IMO, one of the better producers. But this was almost constant and overbearing, to my ear at least. It did have a portion of Hummel's Trumpet Concerto which I enjoyed, but otherwise, too much. Different strokes for different folks.
Added 2016-03-18 11:41:42 by Greg Scholl
Lets see, you saved $3.00 off the regular price and still complain about the music. What would you rather have silent movies? That is what they are originally. As a kid my dad showed his movies on a screen with no sound and it was great. So if you don't like the audio, simply turn down the audio on your tv and you can just enjoy the views. We do have a few RARE shows with live vintage audio, but we don't want to change HISTORY. Some young guy buys a video and later says that this engine or that sounds like this video, when indeed it is faked from some other engine. I know cause one producer stole some of my audio and used it in a pacing scene many years ago. All of the stuff we shot is with live audio. We should be thankful these old films even exist. We cannot provide footage we are not able to obtain. Considering the effort and costs involved in these shows, they are all extremely cheap. Try making one yourself someday and see. Music costs money, narrators, film transfers, research time, and so forth. Most customers don't see that, but only see something as a hobby video. Also like mainstream movies in the theaters, every one has their preconceived notions as to what a video should be (To themselves), sometimes before they watch it. Nobody can get that 100% right. 20-30 years ago the videos were not nearly as nice as they are today, and we got more money for them. Hopefully a few questions have been answered here. Footage was from several sources, and we kept it all USA subjects, since otherwise folks would complain about Canadian. Steamingly, Greg Scholl
Added 2016-03-18 12:54:28 by Rail Buff
Wow! I touched a nerve. It was not my intention to offend anyone. I just wrote how this film affected me. As I sais, different strokes for different folks. Turn off the sound? Then I miss the narration which I value in any film. I do like the narrator on Greg Scholl Productions. Don't know if that is Greg himself or not. But Greg, didn't you read my first rejoinder where I said I consider you among the better producers? Nobody bats a 1,000.
At any rate lets let this thing lie as is. I'm not interested in any personal animosities.
Added 2016-06-20 16:48:50 by Steamboy
The Narrator on All Minus some GSVP Videos Was John Edward Hingsbergen. In the Chicago & Northwestern Mainline West 2-part set, it was Narrated By Eric Greene from Railway(Les Jarrett) Productions. And in 1996, Mike Leland Narrated 3 Out of 5 of The Steam Around The World Series(America Steam in the Rockies, German Standard Gauge Steam, & China Steam Train Paradise).
Added 2016-06-20 17:27:03 by Rail Buff
John Edward Hingsbergen is the narrator I had in mind. He's VERY good, and among the very best, IMO.